Saturday, August 26, 2006

Placer: 2006-08-26


6270 Brookshire Dr
Rocklin, CA 95677
Total Loss: $175,000Percent Loss: 17.0%
Asking Price: $855,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 4    Sq. feet:4000

Asking Price Changes:
Down 4.9% from $899,000 On 06-30
Down 2.7% from $879,000 On 07-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-04-29 for $874,981
Sold on 2006-02-14 for $1,030,000

MLS# 60072290      Google Maps



1545 Hardscrabble Rd
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $130,000Percent Loss: 17.9%
Asking Price: $595,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 1    Sq. feet:1428

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-05-16 for $725,000

MLS# 60041908      Google Maps



102 Deanna Ct
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $101,000Percent Loss: 21.3%
Asking Price: $374,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1249

Asking Price Changes:
Down 7.7% from $405,000 On 05-04
Down 1.3% from $379,000 On 05-14

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2003-09-18 for $243,500
Sold on 2005-09-15 for $475,000

MLS# 60043995      Google Maps



5020 San Francisco St
Rocklin, CA 95677
Total Loss: $100,001Percent Loss: 23.0%
Asking Price: $334,999
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1450

Asking Price Changes:
Down 6.7% from $359,000 On 06-01
Down 6.7% from $358,999 On 06-09
Down 4.3% from $349,999 On 06-30

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-07-29 for $435,000

MLS# 60070540      Google Maps



3830 Lakeshore Blvd
Loomis, CA 95650
Total Loss: $81,000Percent Loss: 8.3%
Asking Price: $899,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 4    Sq. feet:3300

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-11-10 for $980,000

MLS# 60096526      Google Maps



3415 CHATHAM St
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $69,100Percent Loss: 14.1%
Asking Price: $419,900
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1900

Asking Price Changes:
Down 5.6% from $445,000 On 07-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-04-18 for $489,000

MLS# 60081756      Google Maps



8551 Saint Germaine Ct
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $57,000Percent Loss: 8.4%
Asking Price: $619,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2875

Asking Price Changes:
Down 16.9% from $745,000 On 04-15
Down 13.9% from $719,000 On 05-25
Down 9.0% from $679,900 On 06-30
Down 8.7% from $677,900 On 07-15
Down 4.8% from $649,900 On 07-28
Down 3.1% from $639,000 On 08-05

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-07-11 for $676,000

MLS# 60032556      Google Maps



2020 Fernwood Cir
Roseville, CA 95661
Total Loss: $55,000Percent Loss: 12.2%
Asking Price: $395,000
Bedrooms:2    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1299

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2006-03-08 for $450,000

MLS# 50096716      Google Maps



2828 Cardinal Dr
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $50,100Percent Loss: 10.1%
Asking Price: $444,900
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2062

Asking Price Changes:
Down 1.0% from $449,500 On 08-05

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-08-04 for $495,000

MLS# 60086381      Google Maps



1825 San Esteban Cir
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $50,000Percent Loss: 10.2%
Asking Price: $440,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1906

Asking Price Changes:
Down 16.8% from $529,000 On 04-15
Down 14.7% from $516,000 On 06-01
Down 9.3% from $485,000 On 06-16
Down 4.1% from $459,000 On 06-30
Down 2.0% from $449,000 On 07-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-02-10 for $490,000

MLS# 60058188      Google Maps



3933 Rawhide Rd
Rocklin, CA 95677
Total Loss: $45,000Percent Loss: 5.1%
Asking Price: $830,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:4600

Asking Price Changes:
Down 16.6% from $995,000 On 04-15
Down 14.9% from $975,000 On 04-21
Down 14.4% from $970,000 On 05-04
Down 13.5% from $960,000 On 05-14
Down 11.7% from $940,000 On 05-25
Down 10.3% from $925,000 On 06-01
Down 7.7% from $899,000 On 06-09
Down 6.2% from $885,000 On 06-30
Down 3.5% from $860,000 On 07-08
Down 1.2% from $840,000 On 07-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-05-28 for $799,500
Sold on 2005-10-05 for $875,000

MLS# 60030136      Google Maps



1408 Arrowwood Ln
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $44,000Percent Loss: 8.1%
Asking Price: $499,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2803

Asking Price Changes:
Down 20.2% from $625,000 On 04-15
Down 19.5% from $619,900 On 05-04
Down 18.9% from $615,000 On 05-12
Down 18.2% from $610,000 On 06-09
Down 15.4% from $589,900 On 06-16

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-04-26 for $543,000

MLS# 60097464      Google Maps



420 Stephanie Ct
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $42,000Percent Loss: 10.8%
Asking Price: $347,000
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1684

Asking Price Changes:
Down 12.8% from $397,900 On 07-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-11-18 for $389,000

MLS# 60079024      Google Maps



8000 Horncastle Ave
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $40,010Percent Loss: 9.1%
Asking Price: $399,990
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1542

Asking Price Changes:
Down 3.6% from $415,000 On 08-05

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-07-11 for $440,000

MLS# 60088249      Google Maps



1409 Tiffany Cir
Roseville, CA 95661
Total Loss: $40,000Percent Loss: 10.8%
Asking Price: $329,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1376

Asking Price Changes:
Down 10.8% from $369,000 On 07-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2006-02-16 for $369,000

MLS# 60080451      Google Maps



1833 Ambridge Dr
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $38,100Percent Loss: 7.8%
Asking Price: $449,900
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2262

Asking Price Changes:
Down 2.2% from $460,000 On 07-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-10-26 for $488,000

MLS# 60082050      Google Maps



6489 Camellia Point Way
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $35,000Percent Loss: 6.8%
Asking Price: $480,000
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2262

Asking Price Changes:
Down 10.3% from $535,000 On 04-15
Down 8.6% from $524,990 On 04-21
Down 7.3% from $518,000 On 04-27
Down 6.4% from $513,000 On 06-09

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-05-18 for $357,500
Sold on 2004-12-08 for $515,000

MLS# 60022047      Google Maps



6618 Grand Canyon Dr
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $30,001Percent Loss: 5.5%
Asking Price: $519,999
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2859

Asking Price Changes:
Down 8.8% from $569,999 On 04-15
Down 3.7% from $539,999 On 06-30

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-03-30 for $550,000

MLS# 60080414      Google Maps



3241 Markham Way
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $30,000Percent Loss: 5.4%
Asking Price: $525,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2303

Asking Price Changes:
Down 2.8% from $540,000 On 07-08

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-11-08 for $555,000

MLS# 60073661      Google Maps



216 Serranos Ct
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $29,500Percent Loss: 4.0%
Asking Price: $715,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:3200

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-10-24 for $744,500

MLS# 60084230      Google Maps



6789 Cherry Ridge Cir
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $28,000Percent Loss: 4.9%
Asking Price: $547,000
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2538

Asking Price Changes:
Down 3.5% from $567,000 On 08-05

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-10-21 for $575,000

MLS# 60088021      Google Maps



2052 ARCHER Cir
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $27,100Percent Loss: 5.9%
Asking Price: $429,900
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1636

Asking Price Changes:
Down 5.9% from $457,000 On 05-18
Down 2.3% from $439,900 On 07-08

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-06-23 for $457,000

MLS# 60090493      Google Maps



960 Southbridge Cir
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $27,001Percent Loss: 5.1%
Asking Price: $499,999
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:3206

Asking Price Changes:
Down 8.8% from $548,000 On 04-15
Down 8.1% from $544,000 On 05-04
Down 7.7% from $541,900 On 06-01
Down 7.7% from $541,800 On 06-09
Down 6.2% from $533,000 On 06-22
Down 5.6% from $529,900 On 07-08
Down 3.8% from $519,900 On 07-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-02-28 for $527,000

MLS# 60075456      Google Maps



2121 Conejo Dr
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $27,000Percent Loss: 7.0%
Asking Price: $360,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1493

Asking Price Changes:
Down 6.3% from $384,000 On 06-22
Down 1.4% from $365,000 On 07-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-03-18 for $387,000

MLS# 60067033      Google Maps



117 Valley Oak Dr
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $26,600Percent Loss: 9.3%
Asking Price: $259,900
Bedrooms:2    Baths: 1    Sq. feet:1100

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-10-13 for $250,000
Sold on 2005-05-31 for $286,500

MLS# 60089972      Google Maps



6625 Grand Canyon Dr
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $25,100Percent Loss: 4.4%
Asking Price: $539,900
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2591

Asking Price Changes:
Down 5.7% from $572,500 On 04-15
Down 4.4% from $565,000 On 05-12
Down 1.8% from $549,900 On 05-18

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-04-20 for $565,000

MLS# 60066081      Google Maps



2776 Westview Dr
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $24,100Percent Loss: 3.5%
Asking Price: $658,900
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:3583

Asking Price Changes:
Down 8.4% from $719,000 On 04-15
Down 4.2% from $688,000 On 04-27

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-03-16 for $595,000
Sold on 2005-06-02 for $683,000

MLS# 60065417      Google Maps



134 Cedar St
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $22,550Percent Loss: 7.0%
Asking Price: $299,950
Bedrooms:2    Baths: 1    Sq. feet:1039

Asking Price Changes:
Down 6.3% from $319,950 On 06-30

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-03-25 for $322,500

MLS# 60090203      Google Maps



125 Diamond Grove Ct
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $22,100Percent Loss: 2.6%
Asking Price: $839,900
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 4    Sq. feet:4219

Asking Price Changes:
Down 9.6% from $929,000 On 04-15
Down 6.7% from $899,900 On 07-08

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-08-16 for $862,000

MLS# 60074223      Google Maps



6411 Sonora Pass Way
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $21,000Percent Loss: 3.7%
Asking Price: $549,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2798

Asking Price Changes:
Down 8.3% from $599,000 On 06-22
Down 3.7% from $570,000 On 07-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-02-17 for $543,000
Sold on 2005-07-01 for $570,000

MLS# 60068861      Google Maps



108 Goldstone Ct
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $20,100Percent Loss: 2.6%
Asking Price: $744,900
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:3006

Asking Price Changes:
Down 1.9% from $759,000 On 06-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-08-12 for $765,000

MLS# 60066337      Google Maps



4409 Newland Heights Ct
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $20,000Percent Loss: 2.7%
Asking Price: $725,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:3435

Asking Price Changes:
Down 2.7% from $745,000 On 04-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-09-20 for $745,000

MLS# 60032499      Google Maps



8080 SIENNA Loop
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $19,500Percent Loss: 4.3%
Asking Price: $439,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1843

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-04-01 for $458,500

MLS# 60096547      Google Maps



8290 Hidden Lakes Dr
Granite Bay, CA 95746
Total Loss: $19,000Percent Loss: 2.4%
Asking Price: $779,000
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2426

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-06-10 for $668,000
Sold on 2005-09-09 for $798,000

MLS# 60082357      Google Maps



1856 San Carlos Cir
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $17,501Percent Loss: 3.7%
Asking Price: $449,999
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1674

Asking Price Changes:
Down 3.8% from $467,995 On 06-30
Down 3.8% from $467,990 On 07-15
Down 2.2% from $459,999 On 07-28

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-06-22 for $467,500

MLS# 60072306      Google Maps



108 Allegheny Ct
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $17,100Percent Loss: 2.9%
Asking Price: $569,900
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2786

Asking Price Changes:
Down 0.9% from $575,000 On 04-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-03-25 for $587,000

MLS# 60090956      Google Maps



1968 Stonecrest Dr
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $17,000Percent Loss: 3.7%
Asking Price: $438,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2032

Asking Price Changes:
Down 8.6% from $479,000 On 05-25
Down 6.6% from $469,000 On 06-16
Down 2.4% from $449,000 On 06-22
Down 0.2% from $439,000 On 07-08
Down 0.2% from $438,900 On 08-05

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-05-03 for $455,000

MLS# 60097302      Google Maps



707 Vinewood Ave
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $16,000Percent Loss: 5.2%
Asking Price: $289,000
Bedrooms:2    Baths: 1    Sq. feet:832

Asking Price Changes:
Down 9.7% from $320,000 On 04-15
Down 7.7% from $313,000 On 06-16
Down 6.6% from $309,500 On 06-30
Down 3.0% from $298,000 On 07-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-09-24 for $250,000
Sold on 2005-04-15 for $305,000

MLS# 60082906      Google Maps



1254 CRESCENDO Dr
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $15,050Percent Loss: 3.9%
Asking Price: $369,950
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1523

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-09-12 for $385,000

MLS# 60084374      Google Maps



1532 Alyssum Way
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $15,000Percent Loss: 3.9%
Asking Price: $370,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1012

Asking Price Changes:
Down 3.8% from $384,500 On 06-16
Down 2.3% from $378,900 On 07-08

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-08-11 for $385,000

MLS# 60065623      Google Maps



1039 DOWNING Cir
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $14,000Percent Loss: 3.1%
Asking Price: $435,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2802

Asking Price Changes:
Down 6.5% from $464,999 On 08-05
Down 3.1% from $449,000 On 08-14

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-10-14 for $449,000

MLS# 60087785      Google Maps



6308 MALLARD Ct
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $12,100Percent Loss: 2.6%
Asking Price: $459,900
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2501

Asking Price Changes:
Down 2.1% from $469,900 On 07-08

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-12-10 for $472,000

MLS# 60073287      Google Maps



1615 Drummond Ln
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $11,600Percent Loss: 3.0%
Asking Price: $379,900
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1842

Asking Price Changes:
Down 7.3% from $409,900 On 04-15
Down 5.0% from $399,900 On 05-18
Down 2.6% from $389,900 On 07-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-02-01 for $391,500

MLS# 60090216      Google Maps



4702 Durham Ct
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $11,000Percent Loss: 2.8%
Asking Price: $389,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1238

Asking Price Changes:
Down 11.4% from $439,000 On 05-04
Down 8.5% from $425,000 On 05-25
Down 4.9% from $409,000 On 06-09
Down 2.5% from $399,000 On 07-08
Down 0.8% from $392,000 On 08-14

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-11-10 for $400,000

MLS# 60095447      Google Maps



1824 Grouse Run Cir
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $10,000Percent Loss: 2.2%
Asking Price: $435,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1733

Asking Price Changes:
Down 3.2% from $449,500 On 07-15
Down 2.2% from $445,000 On 08-05

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-08-04 for $445,000

MLS# 60091268      Google Maps



617 Darlington Way
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $9,100Percent Loss: 2.3%
Asking Price: $384,900
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1492

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2003-07-02 for $242,500
Sold on 2005-06-01 for $394,000

MLS# 60090416      Google Maps



5511 Butte View Ct
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $9,050Percent Loss: 2.0%
Asking Price: $439,950
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2055

Asking Price Changes:
Down 4.3% from $459,950 On 08-14

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-06-23 for $449,000

MLS# 60090333      Google Maps



208 Amatrene Ct
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $7,600Percent Loss: 1.8%
Asking Price: $409,900
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1533

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-03-04 for $417,500

MLS# 60089494      Google Maps



523 Vine Way
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $6,550Percent Loss: 1.8%
Asking Price: $355,950
Bedrooms:2    Baths: 1    Sq. feet:1423

Asking Price Changes:
Down 6.3% from $379,950 On 07-08
Down 2.5% from $364,950 On 07-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-05-23 for $362,500

MLS# 60075195      Google Maps



2814 Hillcrest Rd
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $6,000Percent Loss: 0.9%
Asking Price: $699,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 4    Sq. feet:3183

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-05-02 for $705,000

MLS# 60072265      Google Maps



8873 Water Song Cir
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $5,100Percent Loss: 0.9%
Asking Price: $574,900
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2773

Asking Price Changes:
Down 7.1% from $619,000 On 05-12
Down 5.6% from $609,000 On 06-09
Down 1.7% from $585,000 On 07-08

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-05-18 for $580,000

MLS# 60096504      Google Maps



2201 FARRIER Rd
Rocklin, CA 95765
Total Loss: $4,000Percent Loss: 0.7%
Asking Price: $595,000
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:3201

Asking Price Changes:
Down 8.4% from $649,500 On 04-15
Down 7.8% from $645,000 On 05-04
Down 5.3% from $628,000 On 05-18
Down 4.8% from $625,000 On 06-22
Down 3.3% from $615,000 On 07-15
Down 2.5% from $610,000 On 07-28

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2004-04-08 for $470,000
Sold on 2005-09-20 for $599,000

MLS# 60051720      Google Maps



1840 San Esteban Cir
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $3,100Percent Loss: 0.6%
Asking Price: $559,900
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:2522

Asking Price Changes:
Down 9.0% from $615,000 On 04-15
Down 6.7% from $599,900 On 04-21
Down 5.1% from $589,900 On 05-20
Down 1.8% from $569,900 On 06-30

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-04-04 for $563,000

MLS# 50116754      Google Maps



107 Austin Ct
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $2,000Percent Loss: 0.5%
Asking Price: $438,000
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1802

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-10-14 for $440,000

MLS# 60086776      Google Maps



4012 Lowdan Ct
Roseville, CA 95747
Total Loss: $1,100Percent Loss: 0.3%
Asking Price: $389,900
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1163

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-10-21 for $391,000

MLS# 60091056      Google Maps



3040 Twin Creeks Ln
Rocklin, CA 95677
Total Loss: $1,000Percent Loss: 0.3%
Asking Price: $339,000
Bedrooms:3    Baths: 2    Sq. feet:1156

Asking Price Changes:
Down 8.4% from $370,000 On 04-15
Down 5.8% from $359,900 On 05-12
Down 2.9% from $349,000 On 06-09
Down 0.3% from $339,900 On 06-22

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-06-24 for $340,000

MLS# 60080100      Google Maps



212 Claredon Ct
Lincoln, CA 95648
Total Loss: $550Percent Loss: 0.1%
Asking Price: $529,950
Bedrooms:5    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2586

Asking Price Changes:
Down 6.9% from $569,000 On 04-15

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-01-25 for $530,500

MLS# 60086021      Google Maps



724 Coibion Ct
Roseville, CA 95678
Total Loss: $500Percent Loss: 0.1%
Asking Price: $585,000
Bedrooms:4    Baths: 3    Sq. feet:2549

Previous Sales:
Sold on 2005-04-07 for $585,500

MLS# 60088212      Google Maps


Total 80 in Placer County

1 comment :

Anonymous said...

Many of these so called "flippers in trouble" are simply hard working families that have lost their jobs, lost income and simply can't afford to keep the home they are in! You can't assume every home sold within a specific timeframe is a "flip" that was purchased with the intent to sell quickly. Shame on you Max.